Dear Margherita

dear i am repeating it again but thank u once again to introduce to us the method of placidius beside Ptolemy as ppl like me who are foreigner its so imp to see these ideas from u ppl who have access to the original works

Best Regards

@ James Alexander:

I should agree with both your points, mine was just an exercise to show the method.
To be really “true” that birth time should be confirmed by events, ie by directions.
A rectification with a theoretical method based on the idea of an ordered cosmos should be true, but do we live in the same cosmos Ancients live?
An idea is true just until when everybody recognize as true….

About the question of Obama birth certificate, I’m not between the supporters of the fake certificate, and in Italy generally they are attentive to the clock in hospital rooms, because birthtime implies legal rights.
Just I’m not happy with the setting Sun, but Moon has the doriphory and maybe it could be enough,

margherita

Hello Marguerita,

I find your Obama “rectification” interesting. Thanks for making it easy to follow.

My problem is that there is a birth certificate for Barack, which states clearly that 19:24 was the time. For 19:07 to be correct, implies that at least one eye-witness who was there at the time has missed the mark by a whopping 17 mins. Not impossible, but surely highly unlikely.

Now, here is the rub. If we have a timed birth certificate and yet postulate that the birth time is actually considerably different, then that implies that ALL births, including those with birth certificates, MUST be rectified. Comments?

Secondly, now that you have “arrived” at the 19:07 time, what methods were used to confirm/verify/validate this assumption?

Curious…

James

Don’t worry, I don’t want to put you in difficulty with your experiment.
I mentioned just because you mentioned in skyscript forum.

Happy to have read you in my blog, in every case.

Well, I don´t exactly use “aspects”, but I have noticed that, the animodar really creates a link between the SAN and the angles, but this links can be of different kind.

My “method” is pretty preliminar. So I probably will test it for several years before I am sure of it. And probably will not publish it, as I have had things stolen from me in the past (and are the same people who will trash you behind your back), so I can discuss the matter with you in private, but as I said, is just preliminary.

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Well, I’d like to specify a little, because as they say Give to Cesar the things that are Cesar’s, and give to God the things that are God’s, it’s not exactly my method, here I just cast a random chart as example. Isaritmia or “gate of passage” is Bezza method, based on his traditional teachings. Placidus method is from Placidus Anyway both of them are taught by Giuseppe Bezza inside CieloeTerra, both methods in practice come from his traditional course.

Told this, I’m happy you enjoyed the example. And yes, I’m a lover of longitudes too It seems to remember you write in Skyscript forum you use aspects to rectify a chart? In this case even if you use plain longitudes there is an aspect between Saturn and MC. I noticed while writing this post.

Anyway Obama chart is a quite difficult chart, in a few minutes it change its nature from day to night chart….

Are you going to explain your method? In your blog? Elsewhere?

Hi, Marguerita

I was in doubt about the method of bezza: it look very complicated and I wasn´t sure if it was too artificial.

but, using a totally different method, that I just have invented, it seems that Obama´s ASC is really closer to the 10-14 aquarius range.

so, congratulations